After Economist Editor-in-Chief Zanny Minton Beddoes presented X CEO Elon Musk with the reality that many people “loathe” him, he crashed out and tried to turn the tables on her.

In an interview, Economist Editor-in-Chief Zanny Minton Beddoes decided to ask him about it.

Stating a simple fact, Minton Beddoes said:

“Some people do loathe you, but do you understand why?”

Musk replied:

“Maybe some people do loathe me, and that’s probably true. I don’t care.”

He continued:

“But the fact that, as you pointed out, a quarter of a billion people follow me, is that I think a lot more people actually like me than don’t.”

He then said to Minton Beddoes:

“I think a lot more people hate you, and the media, more than you realize.”

“Do you realize the media is despised? Do you realize that journalists—the view of journalists—is, like, the favorable view of journalists is, like, 15 percent?”

“The shoe is on the other foot. They hate you. They hate you far more than they hate me.”

Minton Beddoes responded:

“I think very few people know who I am relative to you, so I don’t think I play in the same game.”

The article states that Musk later continued criticizing Minton Beddoes on X, and it also describes reactions from users on the platform to the interview.